I stand corrected. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. An unintentional magazine release means that the magazine drops unintentionally. Gun Review: Taurus GX4XL T.O.R.O. Therefore, make sure you have a suitable magazine for your Walther PPQ. The slide is incredibly easy to rack when the hammer is cocked, which is basically all of the time unless you dry fire it or encounter a dud round. The same adapter fits the PPK/S (which I also checked out a while ago). Great review. Does anyone have any suggestions to fix this issue? Hit, hit, hit, hit its borderline silly. Must admit it would be used primarily for steel plate shooting so the 5 is probably the better option. I wish they kept the old paddle release, I love that thing. So, to avoid this problem, check the magazine and magazine release for proper engagement. You just have to be moderately smarter than the tool youre taking apart. And make sure to super swab the extractor spring gap. With its stellar accuracy and reliability, amazing ergos, and with how quiet and easy it is to shoot suppressed, the fun factor is way high here and that is why the only thing going home to Walther in this case is a check. Walther has enjoyed a reputation for producing some of the most ergonomic pistols on the market, but Id definitely say theyve broken new ground with the PPQ. Its great for taking noobs to the range. Failure to stay open is the failure for the slide to lock to the rear on the empty magazine. I dont normally have issues with other pistols, but its certainly possible with me I think. That guy (or gal) aside, its really not a concern. I got an SR-22, which is great, no doubt, but just a little small for my mitts. My PPQ M2 in 40 has been great but it's about 4 years old. I have shot both and the M2 magazine release looks and feels like it was an afterthough. The factory P99 grips do tend to get really slick if you perspire or have anything on your hands. The Striker Photo source: Walther Forums. The Tenifer finish is as tough as nails. Was not too fond of the original mag release, but no big deal for me. Jan 17, 2013. The 45AUTO version has had reported issues with the material quality of their barrels. One of those moving parts is an internal hammer, which is a big divergence from the striker-fired centerfire models. Its one of the most corrosion/wear resistant finishes you could ask for on a production pistol. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. If this problem occurs once in a blue moon, its because of the ammo, but its a broken extractor if it happens frequently. Yet it still looks just as good as when I first bought it. Most of the time, this happens because of defective ammo. That is the one real big negative I had on the pistol, but Talon grips changed the grip big time and it actually grips and feels better than the PPQ in hand once this is done. Just pull the slide back slightly as with Glocks or CZs and engage the takedown lever. The whole reason people choose 9mm over 45acp is because you can get more hits on target faster with less training. Not so fast. The Walther PPQ M2 a new version of the PPQ M1, which came out about three years ago was a . This hits hard because I feel how you do about sig (320) and my first pistol was a ppq. I can only imagine that the 5 version with its longer sight radius and fiber optic front (something Im used to from my competition gun) would be even better not that it would matter under like 30 yards, where I feel like Im basically incapable of missing with the PPQ .22. They just seem cheap to me with paint on the slide and a plastic trigger. My thumb easily reaches the release without having to alter my shooting grip at all. Laugh. Twenty-two years later, the company had produced their first pistol, the Model 1 in 6.35mm. Carries very nicely in my iwb Black Arch holster. So I suppose the ability to handle the front-weight without feeling to unbalanced would be preferable. The three finger grooves on the grip also contribute to the excellent ergonomics. The trigger is absolutely sweet ! Now she has to decide between this one and the P22. It has quickly gained a reputation for being a fast and ergonomically focused firearm. But the P99 built a well-deserved reputation for its advanced ergonomics, ambidextrous controls, and proven reliability. But then Ive seen so many guys try to assert coolness by disassembling their 1911, Glock, or other pistol very quickly. Unless the operator is unaware or ignorant of firearm safety. Looks normal. Accounts of this are all over the internet. Question of the Day: Should Disguising a Real Gun as a Toy be Illegal? Please check this website and all safety notices on a regular basis for current information about your firearms. Even with that, Id say Walther PPQ trigger easily the best on the market, EVEN when you compare its trigger with awesome trigger of single-action Sig 1911, the famously crisp and smooth one. Even many of them that appear to have thick barrels and dont have a removable sleeve actually have only a very thin, steel barrel insert inside of a wrapper of polymer or an inexpensive metal over it to give it the look of being thicker. Ive managed to run about 8 brands of ammo through it, from high velocity premium stuff to cheap, dirty bulk stuff, some with waxed lead bullets and some with jacketed round nose and jacketed hollow points, and the PPQ has cycled it all. If the problem is already there, install a new trigger bar guide to fix this issue. Place in a new backstrap, push the pin back in, and youre good to go! Then you will have the best of all worlds. Once when shooting, alongside a gunsmith at the range, I was able to consistently replicate the issue and so was he. Next, and my biggest issue with this gun is that the slide is consistently fails to return to battery or is delayed by half a second or so. If I can get a chance to shoot a PPQ I just may replace my G19. Until I see shelves consistently stocked full of bricks, I wouldnt consider buying another .22. Defective trigger spring or sear housing assembly: One reason for this malfunction is a defective trigger spring or rear housing assembly. this is a reminder for those of you with a pps m2 to check your serial number against this list and verify that you have had the recall service completed on your pps m2 pistol. I was shooting Winchester Ranger ammunition .40 S&W 165 grain. The corrective measure to this problem is to strip the pistol and clean it. If that notch is deformed or taken off, it will not engage it. The reach to the trigger is comfortable and the trigger pull is light enough to be easy and controllable but heavy enough that it isnt hazardous for less experienced shooters. Jeremy is TTAG's Deputy Editor, working mostly behind the scenes but, when he attempts to write, he focuses on comprehensive gun & gear reviews. Walther's New PPQ Subcompact Raises the Bar in the Concealed Carry Market (Full Review) by Jordan Michaels on October 18, 2018. . 4. But nope. Easy for me to rack the slide. Tenifer is a ferric nitro carburized hardening that diffuses carbon and nitrogen. .40 being stupid expensive to be all test this test that with. Could this be the cause of it or should it look like this? Also you could use P99 mags in a M1 PPQ and there was at least one aftermarket mfg who made them for those guns, the M2 mags are proprietary and only Walther makes them currently. My wife told me to buy her a new one, thats why I read this review. Walther PPQ M2 Tungsten 9mm. Below are the causes of this problem and their solutions. Im not registering my finger. M&P 22s are still made by Walther in Germany for Smith. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. So if you like the PPQ except for the trigger check it out. Loose front sight screw: This problem occurs when the front sight screw is loose. The pressure generated by a .22 lr just doesnt require thicker steel. Does the PPQ .22 have a similar discrete barrel sleeve, or only that giant barrel adapter that sticks out the end of the slide when the slide is forward? Just bought a 4" Compact, looking forward to getting it. Got rid of it and replaced with a Ruger SR22. Dirtiness-sensitive. I had a lot of problems with feeding and extraction-every kind of jam and hang-up, starting at about 500 rounds. In the box you will find one magazine. Either solid lead projectiles with round noses that are copper plated, or hollow point lead projectiles that tend to have slightly truncated noses and are copper plated. I do like the gun, and purchased it because its the only one Ive found that my arthritic-handed wife can use. Weak recoil spring: Feeding issues can also occur if the recoil spring of your gun is weak. My PPS M2 came with the rear site moved over so far to the right that is will not co witness with optics. Alright, the dragons mouth on the end of the barrel is too awesome to ignore.just saying. The trigger pull, especially on the first shot, is quite heavy. Primarily this is intended for mounting a suppressor, but if youre bored you can also mount any AR-15 or other 1/228 muzzle device: A P22 thread adapter does work on the PPQ, so that opens up options for aftermarket versions. Desirably ergonomic, smooth firing, reliable, accurate, loaded with a double-stacked magazine of 9mm, large enough to serve as my go-to sidearm for outdoor activities and yet condensed and light enough to be my concealed carry or self-defense piece if I need it to be, this is definitely one of my personal favorite handguns. All these amazing features make it one perfect casual outerwear to get compliments from your fashion friends. Exact same texture, same size and feel as just guestimating here approximately the M backstrap of the centerfire (unfortunately I dont have a PPQ to try and measure to be sure here, but Walther states the grip circumference as 5.3). I had a new Steyer start behaving oddly at the range. As to accuracy and simply fun to shoot the other gun I have that may supersede the PPQ is a 1942 P08, I simply love to shoot that gem. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. I have both, but I prefer the PPQ, for its trigger. I had never shot that round before. The subjective difference between a PPQ and a PPX is about $250. You have entered an incorrect email address! I bought my dad a nice custom leather paddle holster for Fathers day, and although the shop only had a mold for a P99 it fits perfectly. hey guys in this video i show you how to fix the walther PPK slide when it starts to jam up on you.. I'd say if it's lubed, and eating good ammo it shouldn't jam up on you. This is easily the most comfortable pistol Ive held yet. reminder: this is not a new pps m2 recall. To give you an idea of how well the Tenifer finish held up, this past summer and fall I packed the PPQ as my carry sidearm on everything from rough motorcycle/ATV trips in heavy dust to elk and deer hunting in torrential downpours up in Idahos wind chilly mountains. It happens because the slide and barrel move into the battery. Gun Exemption for NYC Synagogues? I had a choice of the M1 or M2. No feeding or extraction problems at all . 4. Great gun though. The PPQ is a very simple design in the vein of GLOCKs, and the few controls on the pistol are right where you need them to be. I usually carry a G30S, but sub in the PPQ occasionally, since it fits my 30S holsters very well and draws about the same to first pair. Improper hand placement: Again, this is a common cause when the individual bumps the slide stop up with their thumb while firing and locks the slide to the rear prematurely. Im still working on improving my time. No offense but are you kidding? The solution is to check magazine and magazine release for proper engagement. No? Hard to pass up. I love this gun. The .22 LR version loses a star, however, for dropping the swappable backstraps of the centerfire models and for the slide catch lever that Im not entirely compatible with. The Walther CCP M2 trigger has a short .27 travel and a short reset point. If I had to choose between the PPQ and a CZ, Glock, M&P, Steyr, XDm, the PPQ would lose every time. Im torn between one or the other for a first time gun user (my wife). The P22 only good point was that during any use, you could repeatedly practice malfunction drills, that is if the slide did not fracture. They arent as expensive as HK mags but they do have the market cornered and you pay for that. If you have any issues, maybe not so good. First off, have you tried different ammo? Walther says that, despite some similarities, the PPQ .22 uses its own magazines and they arent compatible with those of other models. At any rate, they managed to do it with a minimal change to trigger quality and feel. The trigger really is that smooth. Dirt or obstruction in striker channel: If there is dirt or any other obstruction in the striker channel of your PPQ, it will fail to fire. There are only a couple of light scratches on the slide and no sign of rusting or corrosion anywhere at all. Honestly though, Im so satisfied with the factory grip on my PPQ anyway, that I wont be changing it anytime soon. The rear is adjustable for both windage and elevation. They were pretty quick getting me an rma with a prepaid FedEx label, though I missed it for a few weeks because it was filtered to a folder I didnt check. In all my shooting life, I dont think Ive ever come across a pistol that would be as hard to speak ill of as the Walther PPQ. I cant imagine someone regretting having purchased a PPQ with the mag release of their choice. Now listen, just because the PPQ fits so well for me doesnt mean it will for you too. Squib load: The round will get caught in the barrel when the squib load happens. The standard 4 inch barrel Walther is 329, or about 200 dollars less than the FN. Neither gun can be rented in our area to try. I had more or less discounted this entire segment of the market. I have avoided buying .22 guns simply because I can hardly find ammo for the ones I already have. Having some problems with my Walther PPQ m2 jamming. This pistol will fit in holsters made for the centerfire PPQs. We encountered an issue with the PPQ SC when manually cycling the slide. The pistol is too heavily lubricated: When your pistol is too heavily lubricated, it can cause failure to return to battery. The PPK/S .22 has a small barrel sleeve that fits over the end of its threaded barrel. I attribute this to many qualities of the pistol: the ergonomics, trigger, and good engineering from Walther. May i ask you please to tell me what is the brand and model of the threaded adapter that you have installed on this pistol instead of the original one? No difference in function. I thought these days that stuff was for cartridge collectors only. I traded in my Glock 19 for a PPQ M1 in 9mm, I chose the paddle release as I do not have to alter my grip to release a magazine. Street price starts at about $310. This is the tactical version that comes with the thread adapter. I had a P22hated it.said id never buy another Walther.bought this one LOVE IT..it is not a P22. I haven't heard of any breaking, at all. A squib is a round that does not have enough powder charge to send . Get the rear sight sold by 10-8 performance: Walther PPQ Rear Sight - 10-8 Performance Store and get a fiber optic for the front sight. Trust me, with this kind of trigger travel, you cant only shoot the PPQ fast, you can shoot it accurately too. Replace the locking block to fix it. I did, which is why my PPS M2 will likely be my last Walther. Have a gunsmith install them for you. The Walther PPQ . Exactly. Impact on the plate is clearly heard each round meeting the target with force. Why wouldnt I just get a plentiful new or used GLOCK brand GLOCK for less $? Walther PPQ M2 FDE 9mm. With a name like the Performance Duty . I really dont want to let her go. I suppose that means if I were starting over and choosing one of the three available models, Id go with the normal 4 or 5 and supply my own thread adapter. Walther PPQ 2,550 Round Review . Overall Length: 7.1, 7.7, or 8.1, respective to above barrel options. The front and rear flat-bottom slide serrations allow for a secure hold when pulling back the slide. Am I dreaming or not? No doubt this gun has a nice grip/feel. That seems to help but I think its anecdotal if not imaginary. Also Read: Best Sights for Walther PPQ M2. Its your standard .22 pistol fare, complete with open sides and thumb stud on the follower to enable easier loading. PPQ M2 4-INCH 9MM Field Test. Its an excellent design. Might be a problem for somebody wanting to use the centerfire PPQ defensively or in competition, but not very likely to matter at all on the .22 plinker. He seemed to want to zero in on the extractor spring being just a shade too beefy and therefore not allowing the slide to travel back over the incoming round as planned. The RWS was pretty accurate, but CCI SV is close and much cheaper. I love the paddle release. Evaluate and correct it. I suppose it is a quality control issue, with the slide,rear sight alignment: I too have the issue with the rear sight almost out beyond the edge of the frame dovetail to get centered on target at 10 yardsmy 9mm P99 had no such issue at all. Below mentioned are all the probable causes of failure to feed and their solutions: Magazine not seated properly: One possible reason for failure to feed is that the magazine is not seated correctly into the frame. Weak ammo, limp wristing, recoil spring. The PPQ M2 .22's slide is hard anodized, CNC machined aluminum. The basic maintenance and care include springs and parts that you should monitor every 5000 rounds or so. 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